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post Sep 7 2001, 03:19 PM
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Hello,

Has anyone in this group upgraded their tire size on their CR-V?
I was thinking of putting on 225/70/15's. I have read in the CR-V
information exchange website a number of people have added these and
found out that they are great! The only thing I am worried about is
that they will not be able to handle any snow chains. Since the tire
clearance between fender and the tire will be decreased.

Has anyone had these tires added and have used snow chains on them?

Thanks.
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post Sep 7 2001, 11:34 PM
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Scrubbing problem when the vehicle is on extreme angles or heavily loaded,
and most importantly a major LOSS of power (DUE TO THE TALLER THAN FACTORY
205/70-15). Talk to a local tire professional, they will back-up my claim.
The speedometer reads 3-4 mph slower.

Over the past 20 years, I have seen this type of tire change to increase
ground clearance. It is a change I don't recommend without changing
differential gearing, primarily for TRUE 4-wheel drive vehicles.

I am POSITIVE you will shorten the life and reliability of the CR-V due to
its ALL-wheel drive nature. I did the same thing on a 1985 Toyota 4-Runner,
a very regretful modification to say the least!!

PS- Save your factory size tires, if you don't like the loss of power or
have scrubbing problems.

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post Sep 10 2001, 03:49 PM
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235/60R-15 tires are shorter than the factory 205/70R-15 tires. I should
know I have the 235/60R-15 Yokohama Avid S/T tires. Radar tested 2 miles
per hour slower than odometer reading. No- BS just facts people!!

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post Sep 10 2001, 04:08 PM
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SORRY, speedometer reading, so 225/60-R-15 would be even shorter!!!, thus3-4
miles per hour error. I have run the 235/60R-15 tires for more than 20k
miles. NO-BS ever!!!
USe a calculator, or http://www.tirerack.com can explain the difference is
tire height, remember the factory size is 205/70R-15 !!!

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post Sep 10 2001, 04:24 PM
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AGAIN- 235's are taller than 225's, you said they are the same height as the
the factory 205/70R-15's, not so my 235/60R-15's are shorter, so definitely
225/6-R-15's are even shorter. USE A CALCULATOR, or study tire sizes at
http://www.tirerack.com
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post Sep 10 2001, 05:05 PM
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The first number is the width of the tire in millimeters, measured from
sidewall to sidewall. To convert to inches, divide by 25.4 In the example
above, the width is 185mm or 7.28".

The second number is the aspect ratio. This is a ratio of sidewall height to
width. In the example above, the tire is 7.28" wide, multiply that by the
aspect ratio to find the height of one sidewall. In this case,
185x0.60=111mm or 7.28"x0.60=4.36".

The last number is the diameter of the wheel in inches.

To figure the outside diameter of a tire, take the sidewall height and
multiply by 2,(remember that the diameter is made up of 2 sidewalls, the one
above the wheel, and the one below the wheel) and add the diameter of the
wheel to get your answer.

Example...185/60R14 85H or 185/60HR14

185mm x .60=111mm x 2=222mm + 355.6mm(14")= 577.6mm or 22.74"
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I have been using the Michelin 215/70/15 X radial tires on my CR-V for
about a year now, and I am very pleased with the tires. The slightly extra
width fits the appearance profile of the CR-V very nicely, and the tire
perform admirably in all conditions they have been subjected to.

- Rod
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post Sep 14 2001, 12:58 AM
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Has the wider width hurt your gas mileage any?
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post Sep 14 2001, 09:09 AM
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The Michelin X 215/70/15 tires have improved my mileage (very) slightly,
as they are designed to improve mileage.
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post Sep 15 2001, 01:02 AM
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yes it did. it hurt my mileage about 2mpg, slower run times, and the
engine worked harder. but it also gave me better better stability &
superb off-road runs. so you really can't have it all. it just depends
how you are going to use your car. i bought it to go off-roading with
and it did the job well. just wished the yokohama geolanders come in
205/70/15.
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post Sep 17 2001, 02:37 PM
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Has anyone tried 245/60/15? I've seen that some are using 235/60/15, but the
diameter is shorter than stock and I'm thinking the 245/60 from Yokohama
might be just right. Anyone know if this tire is too wide? I'm ordering from
tire rack so I can't see just how big the tire is. I'm waffling between the
235/60,245/60 and the 225/70. Any advice appreciated!

-michael-
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post Sep 17 2001, 10:38 PM
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in my opinion, 225/70/15 is wide enough. i've used them and they already
rub in some cases. so 235/60 may be too wide.
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post Sep 18 2001, 10:56 PM
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they will.
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post Sep 19 2001, 07:46 AM
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I think I'm going to go and and become the guinea pig for the 245/60. No one
else seems to have tried them, and they look to be about the same diameter
as stock. My only concern would be if people had the 235/60 felt like they
were broderline too wide or rubbed when turning. I would go with the 235/60
like others have done but I don't want speedometer error (definitely not
odometer error putting extra miles on my car.
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post Sep 19 2001, 06:49 PM
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245/60R-15 is to large, especially when the vehicle is on a hydraulic lift
during service. I am using factory wheels, some aftermarket wheels may work
if they are wider, but 235/60R-15 are a pefect fit in the fender wheels.
Remember the independent suspension of the pre-2002 CR-V's, lot of geometry
changes depending on vehicle load.
You can view various angles of the 235/60R-15 YOKOHAMA AVID S/T tires are my
CR-V at my web site. Just look for the small "thumbnail" pictures which
enlarge when clicked on.

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235/60R-15 Yokohama Avid S/T, 25K plus miles - NO rubbing - NO scrubbing
FULLY LOADED TOO. I have not modified the suspension either. The
speedodometer reads 2 mph faster - radar tested, but really it is worth the
error in handling and ride.
IMPORTANT- This set-up is not the best for snow or off-road stuff, TERRIFIC
in the rain though.

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post Sep 20 2001, 09:57 AM
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OK Salt, I'm convinced now. I went ahead and ordered your tire (235/60). How
does your tread look now at 25K? I suppose 2mph off isn't that bad. If it
seems like a problem I can always go up to 225/70 or take a chance on the
245/60 for my next set. The AVID S/T is at a great price on tirerack.com at
$46/tire, with shipping, came to $211. Thanks to all for the great input.
Once I get emptying my pocketbook accessorizing our V I'll put a page up for
her. Now on to leather seats, sunroof, westin bar and lights....where will
it end!

-michael
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