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post Feb 6 2000, 12:00 AM
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Does anyone know what I should be able to buy a Teg GS-R that got assholed? I can get arround 3 grand worth of shit for my car our of it. Haven't found one but just curious what one could be found for. I'm really interested in killing Camaros. lol<br>CRX_Guy11<br>Drive it like ya Stole it. I'm on my way to town to see what kind of competition I can round up. lol
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post Feb 6 2000, 03:33 PM
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If you really want to take them down, forget the GS-R drivetrain. Get an LS motor and put a B16 head on it. You will whip up on GS-R's then. Everyone wants a GS-R yeah they are quick, but You can do better for less money and the LS motor and the B16 head are both much easier to find.
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post Feb 6 2000, 09:42 PM
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The LS hybrid does have the advantage of having vtec horsepower and the LS torque curev but is it alot more work than just transplanting the GSR engine? I plan on doing a engine swap soon and Im not sure of what to buy, but Ill decide when I get some more money. Isnt it true that its neccessary to widen the dowel pin holes on the B16 head and add a bunch of oil lines and wire in an aftermarket VTEC controller. Is the difference worth it as opposed to just adding more aftermarket bolt ons to the GSR or does the LS engine require less work to install than the GSR engine that it offsets the extra work needed for the head swap. Or does the difference in price the number one reason to run an LS hybrid?
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post Feb 6 2000, 10:46 PM
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Well both are about the same work, but you cant give up the torque. That is what makes the car quick, the horsepower makes it fast. My brother is in the process of making a web page on how we made his LS VTEC. He has 200hp at the fly wheel and is turning out 165 ft lbs of torque. He spins the wheels catching a third by god. Yes the frabrication of a oil hose is required but I hope we will have the page up soon.<br>Glenn
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post Feb 6 2000, 11:59 PM
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I found an LS that is in need of some help and the price is 2750 right now. Would this be a good price? I really had my mind set on a leather interior. I raced a kid last night that told me all he had was a stock LS and had his girlfriend drive it. She spanked me good. Turns out he was shitting me and took the liberty of removing all the GS-R emblems and even the Wing. What a sleeper. I would like to be able to beat him. The fastest car thier was a Black CRX with a 75 shot. Killed a new Eclipse GS-T. That was the first time I have been able to talk to other honda guys face to face. Needless to say we are all really good friends. The CRX's out numbered the rest of the cars there.<br>CRX_Guy11<br>Drive it like ya just swapped it. lol
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post Feb 11 2000, 10:39 PM
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If I'm hearing Glen Coughlin right his brother's LS-R makes 200 hp and 165 ft lbs. This is hard to believe because that's more power than even the Integra Type R. If this is Right I thought I'd be reading about it in every Honda magazine Available. It's hard for me to believe that a 140 horse engine with 160 horse heads equal 200. I know i sound skeptical but I don't want to start shelling out cash for something that's not going to put out. I sure hope all this is right.<br>CRX_Guy11
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post Feb 12 2000, 12:48 AM
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Well I will get the copy of the dyno results and scan them for you to see. I will also have to get you a list of everything used on the motor. And the reasons you have not heard about it is because we have not tried to get into a magazine because the exterior looked like shit, but that is changing a I write this. The car is getting a new paint job, Type R white and we are spraying it ourself and it is being done right. The car is originally blue so we had to strip the body down to get it to look right. The only way you will be able to tell it was blue is to pull out the dash board to see the firewall behind it.<br>Glenn Coughlin
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post Feb 12 2000, 02:18 PM
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What is so hard to believe, up the compression, a good header, intake, and perhaps some nitro and why not. That LS motor is a bigger engine so putting a better head on it is going to give more results. There have been a few feature cars in various magazines that have that hybred combo, but face it. Most people are so taken with the GSR that they do not want to believe that anything short of a type R can beat it.
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post Feb 13 2000, 12:22 AM
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If his Numbers are right the motor Makes more Horse and More Foot Pounds than the type R.
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post Feb 13 2000, 01:12 AM
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Oh and another thing Will I be able to have AC? To me I wouldn't have a car that doesn't have it. I am Very Interested in doing it but it's going to have to wait. I think that alot of the guys that I hang out with would be doing LS swaps into their GS-R integra's if they knew what we knew. I guess I should ask was that a Stock LS and a Stock Head that you did? or were thier other modifications involved? Being one of a very small amount of Honda Enthusiasts in Nebraska i thought it would be realy nice to do. Thanks for the new thoughts. If anyone could tell me a mag that has an article about this swap please post where I can find it or scan it. <br>CRX_Guy11
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post Feb 13 2000, 03:06 AM
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Yes, you can have a/c and a bad ass motor. As for the head, we did have to CC the head because originally we had a bad detonation problem that trashed the piston rings. We did rebuild the engine three times due to the detonation problem and a slightly bent connecting rod that we did not catch. The total modification consist of a B18 block, rods and crank.(longer stroke more torque) We also have a MSD ignition, a throttle body, a AFR (air fuel ratio) adjustment, cam gears, cold air intake and cc'd head. Also the dyno reports I will post asap do not include the cc'd head and adjustments in the cam gears. I confered with my bor on this this evening and the results of the dyno if I remember correctly are 160 hp to the tire and 148ish ft lbs of torque. Multiply this by the 20% that is lost from the transmission and it = 192hp. We have also recently purchased lighter wheels which will result in a greater amount of power being applied to the ground because of less rotational inertia. If we have a chance we will take the car to the dyno again so that we can give you accurate hp to the ground and torque for any doubters out there.<br>Glenn Coughlin
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post Feb 13 2000, 12:15 PM
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Possible. But also where is that power peaking at.
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post Feb 13 2000, 01:03 PM
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Hey Glen,<br> Could you e-mail me or post the price list and other stuff I might need for it? I think I'd just leave the LS stock for a while then do the build up. Just so you know when you tell me prices and parts I don't have the engine. I'm looking for a LS to part out. I was wondering if they have rear discs and how much bigger they are than the Stock CRX brakes? I hope that this isn't too much to ask, as I won't be doing this for about a year. Thanks in Advance.<br>CRX_Guy11<br>e-mail= crx_guy11@...
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