aight u see that civics grill where the honda symbol ussually goes, and theres a little spike there now. how hard is it to get that little grill out?? is there a way to do it w/o having to take the whole bumber off???<br>any help will b totally appricialted.<br>RiK

i will check, but everything, all the directions i've seen, and from all the club info, you gotta take off the bumper AND i think it is screwed to the bottom insert of the bumper